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Q zarpa acomodo el blue ?
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hace 1 hora y media el adr entró en coma profundo.
Con lo de repsol, es cierto. Por eso no recupero valores, tiene que limpiar todo lo que tiene que vender repsol, per se o por los fondos que armo para que no pareciera que era un empresa argentina y ahora tienen una debilidad económica y financiera, porque su principal activo no lo tienen e hicieron tantas tramoyas que tendrán muchos descuentos en la valuación de resarcimiento o en defecto procesos muy largos, ergo van a arreglar, mas pronto que tarde, recibiendo lo que le den. Una vez que se limpie ese tema, veremos. Por otro lado vendrán todas las inversiones necesarias, porque para la actividad petrolera, que invierten en lugares que hay guerras, que hay conflictos religiosos y sociales y muerte, que comparados con argentina, son un infierno.
[quote="jorgearte"]Yo soy de la opinión de que desde la estatización la serie cambió su propia naturaleza. Lamentablemente no me caso con el análisis con y sin gallegos como algo comparable. De hecho todos los números que tiro los tiro desde la estatización.Por ello, aún no veo una forma de cálculo válida, mil disculpas, pero viendo diariamente la evolución del papel durante algunos meses me da esa impresión. Quiero decir, para que crezca a esos valores es precondición algún tipo de acuerdo con Repsol, la entrada fuerte de Chevron, la malaya Pertamina u otra movida similar. Aún con los mejores números de producción de la empresa. Va por otro carril.
[quote="jorgearte"]Yo soy de la opinión de que desde la estatización la serie cambió su propia naturaleza. Lamentablemente no me caso con el análisis con y sin gallegos como algo comparable. De hecho todos los números que tiro los tiro desde la estatización.Por ello, aún no veo una forma de cálculo válida, mil disculpas, pero viendo diariamente la evolución del papel durante algunos meses me da esa impresión. Quiero decir, para que crezca a esos valores es precondición algún tipo de acuerdo con Repsol, la entrada fuerte de Chevron, la malaya Pertamina u otra movida similar. Aún con los mejores números de producción de la empresa. Va por otro carril.
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errerre escribió:jorgearte supongamos que la empresa crezca mas que con los vaciadores: es razonable, si.
supongamos que el ccl sigue en estos niveles. Aunque si sigue el cepo, crecera
supongamos que vuelva al promedio mas bajo de los ultimos años ( excluyendo el mínimo de la crisis 2009), siendo bien pesimista 32dls.
32x9= $288 este seria el precio ajustado por dlr Cuando? en el transcurso del año
Dios te escuche y los inversores compren!!!!
Seria espectacular para todos y justo!!!
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Tiene que cerrar arriba de 13.03 y con 550 de volumen, con estoy tranquilo.
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compran 3000 en 119,5 
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http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=YPF&p= ... 3222025741
macd da compra
y eso es bueno
cerró el gap del 17/04
y eso no es malo
macd da compra
y eso es bueno
cerró el gap del 17/04
y eso no es malo
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El que metió las 130kusd apenas abrió lo sabía me parece...
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O cosas como esta:
http://fuelfix.com/blog/2013/04/30/bill ... tin-shale/
Billionaire plots to beat Chevron to largest Latin shale
Posted on April 30, 2013 at 7:04 am by Bloomberg in Latin America, Shale
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Eduardo Eurnekian, tapping a fortune of at least $1.3 billion, has pledged $700 million in two deals to hasten a definitive partnership with Argentine government-owned YPF SA to develop its Vaca Muerta fields. Eduardo Comesana/Bloomberg
Argentina’s Eurnekian family, after becoming billionaires from media and airports, is planning to become the government’s first shale oil and gas partner.
Eduardo Eurnekian, tapping a fortune of at least $1.3 billion, has pledged $700 million in two deals to hasten a definitive partnership with Argentine government-owned YPF SA to develop its Vaca Muerta fields. After his $500 million preliminary accord with YPF in October, the 70-year-old last week paid about $200 million for 81 percent of Cia. General de Combustibles SA, an oil producer and shareholder in pipelines to YPF’s first operating shale-gas well.
“This acquisition is strategic and a clear sign our shale deal with YPF will be accelerated and signed soon,” Hugo Eurnekian, nephew of Eduardo, said in an April 24 telephone interview from Buenos Aires. “We’ll come up with a signed deal before the end of the year for sure.”
National interest: Argentina oil co. to ‘aggressively’ explore shale
Energy investors from around the world have lined up partnerships to tap Vaca Muerta, holder of Latin America’s largest shale reserves, with an estimated 23 billion barrels of oil equivalent. None has signed a binding agreement in the year since YPF was expropriated from Repsol SA. (REP) Madrid-based Repsol has followed through on threats to sue anyone that attempts to develop the deposits until it’s paid back $10.5 billion.
YPF tumbled 45 percent in the second quarter in Argentine trading last year when it was expropriated. The stock has since gained 52 percent, helped by prospects that government backing and joint ventures with oil companies will push up output. The country’s Merval index climbed 44 percent in that period.
First Step
“Finally signing a definitive agreement with a new investor would boost YPF shares,” Carlos Aszpis, an analyst at Schweber & Cia. Sociedad de Bolsa, said by telephone from Buenos Aires.
Through Corporacion America, the Eurnekians operate 49 airports in Latin America and Europe; produce wine, grains and oilseeds on 250,000 acres of land; and are working on a $3 billion tunnel through the Andes connecting Argentina and Chile. In December it acquired Banco Interfinanzas. The group’s energy holdings were limited to Unitec, whose oil output accounted for less than a 1 percent share of the Argentine market.
Cia. General de Combustibles, known as CGC, and the Vaca Muerta accord represent the Eurnekians’ first step toward becoming a major Latin American oil and gas producer, Hugo Eurnekian said. Should Argentina’s second-richest family behind the Bulgheronis turn the December memorandum of understanding with YPF into a binding deal it would see the group overtake Chevron Corp. (CVX) and Bridas Corp., whose YPF partnerships are delayed by lawsuits.
‘Dead Cow’
YPF Chief Executive Officer Miguel Galuccio, appointed after President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner seized control of the company a year ago, is seeking partners with deep pockets to help finance a $37 billion plan to develop the shale formation. Repsol said at the time YPF was expropriated in April 2012 it had 15 non-binding agreements with potential partners.
The Connecticut-size area in southern Argentina’s Patagonia, whose name translates to Dead Cow, is estimated to hold at least 23 billion barrels, according to a Ryder Scott survey. Fernandez seized YPF on the grounds that Madrid-based Repsol under-invested since buying the company in the 1990s.
Exports: Surge in US natural gas pushes other countries to diversify (video)
The CGC acquisition was Argentina’s biggest this year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The Buenos Aires-based company produced 5 million barrels of oil equivalent last year from five conventional fields in Argentina and two in Venezuela, and has 37.7 million barrels of proven reserves, according to the company’s website. It has a 15 percent stake in Transportadora de Gas del Norte, which operates pipelines including from YPF’s Orejano X-2 shale-gas field in Vaca Muerta.
Asset Freeze
TGN shares have surged 49 percent this year to 88 centavos after last year’s 27 percent slump. The Merval stock index is up 34 percent this year and gained 16 percent in 2012.
Chevron, which signed a $1 billion tentative deal Dec. 21 with YPF, said March 12 that the shale venture depends on lifting an embargo ordered by Buenos Aires Civil Judge Adrian Elcuj Miranda on Nov. 7. The San Ramon, California-based company is fighting the Argentine asset freeze related to a $19 billion award over pollution in Ecuador. Chevron spokesman Jim Craig declined to comment on the status of the MOU with YPF in an e- mailed response to questions.
YPF’s $1.5 billion shale accord with Bridas, controlled by Argentina’s Bulgheroni brothers, was delayed after Repsol filed a lawsuit against the venture in Madrid and Bridas countered by filing a case in New York.
New Acquisitions
Mario Calafell, a spokesman for the Bulgheroni brothers, didn’t return a phone call or an e-mail seeking comment. YPF spokesman Alejandro Di Lazzaro declined to comment.
Repsol, based in Madrid, hasn’t sued the Eurnekians.
“We will closely examine the terms of any agreement to protect our illegally confiscated assets from third-party profiteering,” Kristian Rix, spokesman for Repsol in Madrid, said in an interview.
CGC’s stake in pipelines connecting Vaca Muerta and other gas fields with other markets in the region was another reason for the acquisition, Eurnekian said. Also last week, Argentine holding company Soc. Comercial del Plata SA bought an 11 percent stake in CGC at the same share price paid by Eurnekian. SCP is reentering CGC after selling an 81 percent stake in 2004 for $24 million as it battled to remain a going concern.
“It’s a great time to grow in the oil sector and we will increase investments in upstream like the agreement to be sealed with YPF and also with new acquisitions we are currently analyzing,” Eurnekian said. “When we get into a sector, we always work hard to become the top players.”
Diversification
Eduardo Eurnekian, the son of an Armenian immigrant, founded the group. With no children, he is handing over operations to his nieces and nephews. Hugo, the son of Eduardo’s deceased brother Alberto, is leading the diversification into oil and gas as well as the Andes tunnel, part of initiative to connect the Coquimbo port on the Pacific with Brazil’s Porto Alegre port on the Atlantic.
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Eurnekian is worth at least $1.3 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, based on his ownership of Aeropuertos Argentina 2000 SA. Last year, the Buenos Aires-based airport operator generated 738 million pesos ($142 million) in earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, 250 million pesos in profit and had 1.3 billion pesos in net debt, according to financial statements on the website of Argentina’s securities regulator.
Self-Funded
The operation is valued at $1.3 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg, when comparing the results to the average enterprise value-to-Ebitda and price-to-earnings multiples of four emerging market peers: Mexico’s Grupo Aeroportuario del Pacifico SAB and Grupo Aeroportuario del Centro Norte, China’s Shanghai International Airport Co. and Bangkok-based Airports of Thailand Public Co. Enterprise value is defined as market capitalization plus total debt minus cash.
“We bought this company with our own cash flow, we don’t need to borrow money to grow,” said Eurnekian. “I don’t know how much money we have — it’s certainly well over $1 billion. Our main goal, though, is not to be billionaires, but become top players to change the region.”
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Billionaire plots to beat Chevron to largest Latin shale
Posted on April 30, 2013 at 7:04 am by Bloomberg in Latin America, Shale
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Eduardo Eurnekian, tapping a fortune of at least $1.3 billion, has pledged $700 million in two deals to hasten a definitive partnership with Argentine government-owned YPF SA to develop its Vaca Muerta fields. Eduardo Comesana/Bloomberg
Argentina’s Eurnekian family, after becoming billionaires from media and airports, is planning to become the government’s first shale oil and gas partner.
Eduardo Eurnekian, tapping a fortune of at least $1.3 billion, has pledged $700 million in two deals to hasten a definitive partnership with Argentine government-owned YPF SA to develop its Vaca Muerta fields. After his $500 million preliminary accord with YPF in October, the 70-year-old last week paid about $200 million for 81 percent of Cia. General de Combustibles SA, an oil producer and shareholder in pipelines to YPF’s first operating shale-gas well.
“This acquisition is strategic and a clear sign our shale deal with YPF will be accelerated and signed soon,” Hugo Eurnekian, nephew of Eduardo, said in an April 24 telephone interview from Buenos Aires. “We’ll come up with a signed deal before the end of the year for sure.”
National interest: Argentina oil co. to ‘aggressively’ explore shale
Energy investors from around the world have lined up partnerships to tap Vaca Muerta, holder of Latin America’s largest shale reserves, with an estimated 23 billion barrels of oil equivalent. None has signed a binding agreement in the year since YPF was expropriated from Repsol SA. (REP) Madrid-based Repsol has followed through on threats to sue anyone that attempts to develop the deposits until it’s paid back $10.5 billion.
YPF tumbled 45 percent in the second quarter in Argentine trading last year when it was expropriated. The stock has since gained 52 percent, helped by prospects that government backing and joint ventures with oil companies will push up output. The country’s Merval index climbed 44 percent in that period.
First Step
“Finally signing a definitive agreement with a new investor would boost YPF shares,” Carlos Aszpis, an analyst at Schweber & Cia. Sociedad de Bolsa, said by telephone from Buenos Aires.
Through Corporacion America, the Eurnekians operate 49 airports in Latin America and Europe; produce wine, grains and oilseeds on 250,000 acres of land; and are working on a $3 billion tunnel through the Andes connecting Argentina and Chile. In December it acquired Banco Interfinanzas. The group’s energy holdings were limited to Unitec, whose oil output accounted for less than a 1 percent share of the Argentine market.
Cia. General de Combustibles, known as CGC, and the Vaca Muerta accord represent the Eurnekians’ first step toward becoming a major Latin American oil and gas producer, Hugo Eurnekian said. Should Argentina’s second-richest family behind the Bulgheronis turn the December memorandum of understanding with YPF into a binding deal it would see the group overtake Chevron Corp. (CVX) and Bridas Corp., whose YPF partnerships are delayed by lawsuits.
‘Dead Cow’
YPF Chief Executive Officer Miguel Galuccio, appointed after President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner seized control of the company a year ago, is seeking partners with deep pockets to help finance a $37 billion plan to develop the shale formation. Repsol said at the time YPF was expropriated in April 2012 it had 15 non-binding agreements with potential partners.
The Connecticut-size area in southern Argentina’s Patagonia, whose name translates to Dead Cow, is estimated to hold at least 23 billion barrels, according to a Ryder Scott survey. Fernandez seized YPF on the grounds that Madrid-based Repsol under-invested since buying the company in the 1990s.
Exports: Surge in US natural gas pushes other countries to diversify (video)
The CGC acquisition was Argentina’s biggest this year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The Buenos Aires-based company produced 5 million barrels of oil equivalent last year from five conventional fields in Argentina and two in Venezuela, and has 37.7 million barrels of proven reserves, according to the company’s website. It has a 15 percent stake in Transportadora de Gas del Norte, which operates pipelines including from YPF’s Orejano X-2 shale-gas field in Vaca Muerta.
Asset Freeze
TGN shares have surged 49 percent this year to 88 centavos after last year’s 27 percent slump. The Merval stock index is up 34 percent this year and gained 16 percent in 2012.
Chevron, which signed a $1 billion tentative deal Dec. 21 with YPF, said March 12 that the shale venture depends on lifting an embargo ordered by Buenos Aires Civil Judge Adrian Elcuj Miranda on Nov. 7. The San Ramon, California-based company is fighting the Argentine asset freeze related to a $19 billion award over pollution in Ecuador. Chevron spokesman Jim Craig declined to comment on the status of the MOU with YPF in an e- mailed response to questions.
YPF’s $1.5 billion shale accord with Bridas, controlled by Argentina’s Bulgheroni brothers, was delayed after Repsol filed a lawsuit against the venture in Madrid and Bridas countered by filing a case in New York.
New Acquisitions
Mario Calafell, a spokesman for the Bulgheroni brothers, didn’t return a phone call or an e-mail seeking comment. YPF spokesman Alejandro Di Lazzaro declined to comment.
Repsol, based in Madrid, hasn’t sued the Eurnekians.
“We will closely examine the terms of any agreement to protect our illegally confiscated assets from third-party profiteering,” Kristian Rix, spokesman for Repsol in Madrid, said in an interview.
CGC’s stake in pipelines connecting Vaca Muerta and other gas fields with other markets in the region was another reason for the acquisition, Eurnekian said. Also last week, Argentine holding company Soc. Comercial del Plata SA bought an 11 percent stake in CGC at the same share price paid by Eurnekian. SCP is reentering CGC after selling an 81 percent stake in 2004 for $24 million as it battled to remain a going concern.
“It’s a great time to grow in the oil sector and we will increase investments in upstream like the agreement to be sealed with YPF and also with new acquisitions we are currently analyzing,” Eurnekian said. “When we get into a sector, we always work hard to become the top players.”
Diversification
Eduardo Eurnekian, the son of an Armenian immigrant, founded the group. With no children, he is handing over operations to his nieces and nephews. Hugo, the son of Eduardo’s deceased brother Alberto, is leading the diversification into oil and gas as well as the Andes tunnel, part of initiative to connect the Coquimbo port on the Pacific with Brazil’s Porto Alegre port on the Atlantic.
Texas oil: FDR grandson digs deep with CO2
Eurnekian is worth at least $1.3 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, based on his ownership of Aeropuertos Argentina 2000 SA. Last year, the Buenos Aires-based airport operator generated 738 million pesos ($142 million) in earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, 250 million pesos in profit and had 1.3 billion pesos in net debt, according to financial statements on the website of Argentina’s securities regulator.
Self-Funded
The operation is valued at $1.3 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg, when comparing the results to the average enterprise value-to-Ebitda and price-to-earnings multiples of four emerging market peers: Mexico’s Grupo Aeroportuario del Pacifico SAB and Grupo Aeroportuario del Centro Norte, China’s Shanghai International Airport Co. and Bangkok-based Airports of Thailand Public Co. Enterprise value is defined as market capitalization plus total debt minus cash.
“We bought this company with our own cash flow, we don’t need to borrow money to grow,” said Eurnekian. “I don’t know how much money we have — it’s certainly well over $1 billion. Our main goal, though, is not to be billionaires, but become top players to change the region.”
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Yo soy de la opinión de que desde la estatización la serie cambió su propia naturaleza. Lamentablemente no me caso con el análisis con y sin gallegos como algo comparable. De hecho todos los números que tiro los tiro desde la estatización.Por ello, aún no veo una forma de cálculo válida, mil disculpas, pero viendo diariamente la evolución del papel durante algunos meses me da esa impresión. Quiero decir, para que crezca a esos valores es precondición algún tipo de acuerdo con Repsol, la entrada fuerte de Chevron, la malaya Pertamina u otra movida similar. Aún con los mejores números de producción de la empresa. Va por otro carril.
errerre escribió:jorgearte supongamos que la empresa crezca mas que con los vaciadores: es razonable, si.
supongamos que el ccl sigue en estos niveles. Aunque si sigue el cepo, crecera
supongamos que vuelva al promedio mas bajo de los ultimos años ( excluyendo el mínimo de la crisis 2009), siendo bien pesimista 32dls.
32x9= $288 este seria el precio ajustado por dlr Cuando? en el transcurso del año
Re: YPFD YPF S.A.
jorgearte supongamos que la empresa crezca mas que con los vaciadores: es razonable, si.
supongamos que el ccl sigue en estos niveles. Aunque si sigue el cepo, crecera
supongamos que vuelva al promedio mas bajo de los ultimos años ( excluyendo el mínimo de la crisis 2009), siendo bien pesimista 32dls.
32x9= $288 este seria el precio ajustado por dlr Cuando? en el transcurso del año
supongamos que el ccl sigue en estos niveles. Aunque si sigue el cepo, crecera
supongamos que vuelva al promedio mas bajo de los ultimos años ( excluyendo el mínimo de la crisis 2009), siendo bien pesimista 32dls.
32x9= $288 este seria el precio ajustado por dlr Cuando? en el transcurso del año
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AYER A ULTIMA HORA COMENTARON LA NOTA QUE PRESENTO GALLUCIO resumo: no esta de acuerdo con el congelamiento de precios,es preocupante la inflación que esta teniendo argentina para los negocios de la empresa y algo mas que en este momento no recuerdo,pero esto que "expreso" fehacientemente en la nota es preocupante,sabiendo que la firma justamente el CEO de YPF,ojo!!
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Y la resistencia es, efectivamente, el volumen. Con 130 lucas más lo detonan. Algún día alguien me explicará porqué este clavo de olor del ADR se vuelve referencia para el mercado local....
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Que no me ilusione? Pero qué desayunan, Bardhal? Mirá el volumen que tiene y el tremendo flag que está formando? Naaaaa, no puede ser.
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