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Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 8:36 pm
por hipotecado
bueno el IO + 4% :2230:

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 7:29 pm
por Sonic

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 5:23 pm
por garralaucha2
Sonic escribió:Y no seria un buen driver esto ? Sacar a todos los genios que pudieron llegar a tener responsabilidad con el accidente ? :wink:

HASTA 15 MINUTOS ANTES DEL DESASTRE EL CEO Y SU GENTE ERAN UNOS GENIOS QUE ESTABAN DESENDEUDANDO A LA EMPRESA Y AUMENTANDO LA PRODUCCION :2235: :2235:

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 5:17 pm
por garralaucha2
hipotecado escribió:MUY DURO GOLPE AHORA SI, COMPLICADA LA SEMANA PACIENCIA :2230: POR SUERTE ES CORTA :2230:

DONDE LA SEMANA ESA CORTA??? :( :(

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 3:43 pm
por novatoo
Es una situación difícil impredecible, Vale no puede parar de producir porque cuesta arrancar ademas Brasil perderá muchos ingresos y también los estados necesitan del trabajo de la empresa. Como lo tomara el mercado por hay esta descontado.

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 3:20 pm
por ferp
rafa escribió:Estimados, buenos dias.
He estado comprado en Vale ininterrumpidamente desde mediados del 2015 hasta unos dias después del accidente.
Fue para mi un golpe duro, no por haber bajado el precio de la accion, sino que tenia a Vale como uno de los
principales pilares de mi inversión a largo plazo. No voy a reiterar los elementos positivos que tenia la empresa,
pero esta catástrofe genera consecuencias difíciles de poder predecir. Deberá pasar bastante tiempo para poder
analizar seriamente reingresar en el papel, al menos en mi manera de invertir que es comprando activos para
invertir en el largo plazo. En el accidente de Samarco, se tardo bastante tiempo hasta que se estabilizaron las noticias
sobre ese tema. Acá será mucho mas duro, así que solo como experiencia les pido prudencia a la hora de invertir.
Ojalá pueda reingresar en el papel quizás en dos años o algo así como mínimo, cuando tengamos mas claro las consecuencias que esto puede llevar. Este hecho de ayer de el alejamiento de los principales directivos de Vale es uno solo de las múltiples
malas noticias que vamos a ir viendo con el correr de los meses.
Esto de ayer no es algo menor. Lo que significa para toda la gente de Vale descabezar a quienes llevaron adelante la empresa.
No termino de entender si es cierto lo que se dice, como ante una probabilidad cierta de accidente, la compañía no clausuro
la mina por seguridad.
Saludos y Buen comiendo.

Hola Rafa
Que bueno encontrar inversores a largo plazo, yo tengo la misma estrategia que vos. El año pasado muchas veces estuve a punto de ingresar a VALE, pero no lo hice, y ahora con el diario del lunes me alegro de no haberlo hecho. Actualmente, y llendo de acá a 10-15años, tengo VALO, CEPU y TGNO4, cómo lo ves? Vos qué elegiste para tu cartera? Gracias

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 12:26 pm
por Sonic
Y no seria un buen driver esto ? Sacar a todos los genios que pudieron llegar a tener responsabilidad con el accidente ? :wink:

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 11:48 am
por rafa
Estimados, buenos dias.
He estado comprado en Vale ininterrumpidamente desde mediados del 2015 hasta unos dias después del accidente.
Fue para mi un golpe duro, no por haber bajado el precio de la accion, sino que tenia a Vale como uno de los
principales pilares de mi inversión a largo plazo. No voy a reiterar los elementos positivos que tenia la empresa,
pero esta catástrofe genera consecuencias difíciles de poder predecir. Deberá pasar bastante tiempo para poder
analizar seriamente reingresar en el papel, al menos en mi manera de invertir que es comprando activos para
invertir en el largo plazo. En el accidente de Samarco, se tardo bastante tiempo hasta que se estabilizaron las noticias
sobre ese tema. Acá será mucho mas duro, así que solo como experiencia les pido prudencia a la hora de invertir.
Ojalá pueda reingresar en el papel quizás en dos años o algo así como mínimo, cuando tengamos mas claro las consecuencias que esto puede llevar. Este hecho de ayer de el alejamiento de los principales directivos de Vale es uno solo de las múltiples
malas noticias que vamos a ir viendo con el correr de los meses.
Esto de ayer no es algo menor. Lo que significa para toda la gente de Vale descabezar a quienes llevaron adelante la empresa.
No termino de entender si es cierto lo que se dice, como ante una probabilidad cierta de accidente, la compañía no clausuro
la mina por seguridad.
Saludos y Buen comiendo.

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 10:47 am
por hipotecado
mcl escribió:https://www.investing.com/news/stock-ma ... st-1796175

RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - Brazilian iron ore miner Vale SA Chief Executive Fabio Schvartsman and several other senior executives resigned on Saturday in what the company described as a temporary move, after one of its mining dams burst in January, killing hundreds.

Vale said Schvartsman offered his resignation, which the board "immediately accepted" after state and federal prosecutors recommended their removal late on Friday.

The move comes slightly over a month after a tailings dam broke at Vale's Corrego do Feijao mine in the interior Brazilian state of Minas Gerais, likely killing over 300 people and releasing massive amounts of toxic sludge.

It was the second deadly burst at a Vale-linked tailings dam in Minas Gerais in four years.

The resignations came after documents emerged in recent weeks showing that Vale knew it had an elevated risk of rupture and that inspectors felt they were under pressure to certify the structure as safe.

Earlier this week, newspaper Folha de S.Paulo reported that a Vale manager had told executives the integrity of the structure had worsened, though the company vigorously denied the report.

The company said it had appointed Eduardo Bartolomeo, executive director of base metals, as the new head of the firm.

Also resigning were Vale's head of ferrous minerals and coal, Peter Poppinga, planning director Lucio Flavio Gallon Cavalli and Silmar Magalhaes Silva, the head of a geographic division at Vale.

Vale said its board met on Friday night and Saturday morning following the prosecutors' recommendation.

In a letter sent to the board by Schvartsman and published by newspaper Folha de S.Paulo, in which he asked to be removed from the position of CEO on a "temporary" basis, the executive vigorously defended his conduct.

"I am absolutely convinced that the way I have acted personally, as well as the rest of our executive board ... has been absolutely appropriate, correct, and, mainly, loyal to our non-negotiable values of upholding operational security as a company," the letter read, according to Folha.

Vale did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Bartolomeo, the incoming chief executive, was previously the executive director of marketing and of fertilizer and coal operations, according to Vale's website. He has also served on Vale's board of directors as well as its compliance and risk committee and financial committee.

According to his LinkedIn (NYSE:LNKD) profile, he worked as executive director at Vale for 8 years until 2012, after which he worked as CEO of Brazil Hospitality Group then as CEO of Nova Transportadora do Sudeste, a gas pipeline company. He rejoined Vale in January of 2018.

He holds MBAs from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Katholieke Universiteit in Belgium, the website says.

The executives' departure was made public on Saturday evening during Brazil's Carnival (NYSE:CCL) holiday weekend. The country's main stock exchange will be closed on Monday and Tuesday although Vale's ADRs will reopen in New York on Monday.




MUY DURO GOLPE AHORA SI, COMPLICADA LA SEMANA PACIENCIA :2230: POR SUERTE ES CORTA :2230:

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 10:37 am
por kelui
09ezemarq escribió:Parece que esta semana sacamos una moneda de nuevo....

Mmmm yo lo veo al revés, eso es el mercado

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 10:37 am
por kelui

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 10:29 am
por 09ezemarq
lagasale escribió:Short abierto en 12,22. TP en 11,8. SL: cierre por arriba de 12,61.

Parece que esta semana sacamos una moneda de nuevo....

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 9:59 am
por garralaucha2
:abajo: :abajo: :golpe: :2230:

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Dom Mar 03, 2019 9:38 am
por mcl
https://www.investing.com/news/stock-ma ... st-1796175

RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - Brazilian iron ore miner Vale SA Chief Executive Fabio Schvartsman and several other senior executives resigned on Saturday in what the company described as a temporary move, after one of its mining dams burst in January, killing hundreds.

Vale said Schvartsman offered his resignation, which the board "immediately accepted" after state and federal prosecutors recommended their removal late on Friday.

The move comes slightly over a month after a tailings dam broke at Vale's Corrego do Feijao mine in the interior Brazilian state of Minas Gerais, likely killing over 300 people and releasing massive amounts of toxic sludge.

It was the second deadly burst at a Vale-linked tailings dam in Minas Gerais in four years.

The resignations came after documents emerged in recent weeks showing that Vale knew it had an elevated risk of rupture and that inspectors felt they were under pressure to certify the structure as safe.

Earlier this week, newspaper Folha de S.Paulo reported that a Vale manager had told executives the integrity of the structure had worsened, though the company vigorously denied the report.

The company said it had appointed Eduardo Bartolomeo, executive director of base metals, as the new head of the firm.

Also resigning were Vale's head of ferrous minerals and coal, Peter Poppinga, planning director Lucio Flavio Gallon Cavalli and Silmar Magalhaes Silva, the head of a geographic division at Vale.

Vale said its board met on Friday night and Saturday morning following the prosecutors' recommendation.

In a letter sent to the board by Schvartsman and published by newspaper Folha de S.Paulo, in which he asked to be removed from the position of CEO on a "temporary" basis, the executive vigorously defended his conduct.

"I am absolutely convinced that the way I have acted personally, as well as the rest of our executive board ... has been absolutely appropriate, correct, and, mainly, loyal to our non-negotiable values of upholding operational security as a company," the letter read, according to Folha.

Vale did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Bartolomeo, the incoming chief executive, was previously the executive director of marketing and of fertilizer and coal operations, according to Vale's website. He has also served on Vale's board of directors as well as its compliance and risk committee and financial committee.

According to his LinkedIn (NYSE:LNKD) profile, he worked as executive director at Vale for 8 years until 2012, after which he worked as CEO of Brazil Hospitality Group then as CEO of Nova Transportadora do Sudeste, a gas pipeline company. He rejoined Vale in January of 2018.

He holds MBAs from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Katholieke Universiteit in Belgium, the website says.

The executives' departure was made public on Saturday evening during Brazil's Carnival (NYSE:CCL) holiday weekend. The country's main stock exchange will be closed on Monday and Tuesday although Vale's ADRs will reopen in New York on Monday.

Re: VALE Vale

Publicado: Sab Mar 02, 2019 10:20 pm
por hipotecado